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and they got there by cramming it in everyones faces with their search monopoly.

Totally different than bundling it with the OS.

Except wait, they do that too.


Are the ads really that awful, or just in an area where google isn't winning already?


Have you ever surfed the web on mobile, without and ad blocker?


Mobile really is far worse than desktop web without a blocker, especially on Chrome on Android compared to my previous iOS or Windows Phones. I'd never seen so many driveby attempts to install crappy software.


The desktop web is still a horrible experience, especially on slow connections or slow computers. Turn off adblock, open the inspector and you'll see ads consuming >90% of bandwidth, memory and CPU, even on mainstream sites. It really is an absurd situation.


That was one of the driving factors that made me switch to firefox (from chrome): I can use uBlock on mobile now.


What's the response when a competitor (rightfully IMO) claims this is a blatant abuse of googles position as the leading browser provider?


If you don't like it then vote with your feet.


This is like saying if you don't like company parties leave the company, instead of just 'don't go to the parties', which is what OP is asking for.


Technically, I don't think there is anything to prevent an employer for forcing you to attend company parties as a condition of employment. Of course the vast majority of employers wouldn't do this, but in this case your only choice is to go to the parties or take a different job.

Now an argument could be made that the employer-employee relationship is different from the union-employee relationship, but is there a reason that any such difference implies that a union can't set conditions for employment?


I vote with my votes and I vote to kill unions.


Comments like this annoy me. A few decades ago unions were powerful forces for worker rights, and served a major purpose by allowing collective bargaining.

Nowadays we have "right to work" laws being sponsored by companies and people somehow think it's "wrong" to join unions and bargain collectively.

When I see posts like this, I shake my head and wonder where we went wrong.


oh, that's easy, the unions fought for what was fair, and when they got it they KEPT GOING. we need a good balance, not for the side who happens to have the power at the moment taking all they can get.


As opposed to corporations who stopped at a fair point when they started to kill unions off?


that would be addressed by the second sentence you completely ignored.


A group leaving the country doesn't give 2 shits about the constitution. It comes down to how much you are willing to fight for it, and both sides would end up with nukes.


Exactly. Other countries have working systems of government. The US needs to get their shit together.


I doubt it gets that far, but it really does seem like something needs to change. The country doesn't necessarily need to shift as far left as california, but right not a set of old laws working with the modern shift towards cities is really reducing the power of a vote in CA/NY. That's a pretty big problem.


so is google.

Conglomeration in general isn't great for the open web. That's where we are though.



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