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Worst idea ever, stay off the chemical cocktails. It only takes one objective look and a minimum of reflection to see what Big Pharma is up to, and it's not good for anyone. Speed will make you feel better-ish, but it will also turn you into a Zombie-like shell without substance.

I wouldn't recommend drugs at all without knowing more about the person I'm talking to, but I strongly prefer natural alternatives like weed and shrooms to untangle my my brain.

Back to subject. I would say stop worrying so much about what others are doing and trust your own intuition about what to learn and how to do it. Most of software is an ignorant echo chamber, most of the people who make noise couldn't write a creative line of code if their lives depended on it. Do your thing, I'm sure you didn't go through all the effort of coming here to be just another drone.


You wouldn't recommend Adderall (a drug with extensive(!) safety research) but instead you would recommend weed and shrooms? Also speed != adderall.


Why on earth would you trust substances humans have been using for thousands of years in favor of something brewed in a lab by a pharma company with quarterly goals and a decade (or two?) of tests (perhaps with incomplete test coverage). Difficult choice.


Just because humans have been using something for thousands of years doesn't mean its a safe choice.


Adderall (a drug with extensive safety research conflict of interest, thus bias). I caught a guest (friend of a friend) snorting Adderall & she looked/acted like a meth addict.


Exactly, this has nothing to do with free software. Most people are so messed up mentally and emotionally these days that they react like injured animals to any kind of outside stimuli. In the end I'm pretty sure they hate themselves more than anything. Expressing anger over the obvious injustice in this shit world is one thing, flaming any one who threatens to rock your boat another.


There is this joke that there are two kinds of people, those that divide the world into two kinds and those that don't. Is this some kind of elaborate riff on that theme?


Word. I started coding at 8 and I'm not letting my children anywhere near the stupid gadgets before they're old enough to see through the illusion. Computers are stupid, humans are so much more than 1's and 0's. Teaching kids to code is about profits, period; and no one except our controllers really gives a shit about profits when it comes at the expense of human lives.


This stance seems almost ironic, given your alias. I assume your name is based in this attitude though.

> at the expense of human lives.

I think you mean to imply that children will become mindless coding machines, but would you not agree that coding can help to expand your view of the world, just as learning a language or beginning to paint?

As the article implies:

> Each and every one of us is born curious and creative,

everyone has the ability to form connections in their mind. Is coding as a facilitator to our curiosity? Maybe it is only a matter of nurturing a coding experience that complements that curiosity.


Why would you work 80 hours per week when a couple of hours a day is enough to get by? Or even encourage that? There's plenty more important things in life than work and funny money, and plenty more important things in work than number of hours spent behind the keyboard.


Because you know that you go full throttle for 3-5 years and then you have the possibility to retire.

I would sacrifice 5 years of my life in order to get financial freedom for the rest of it.


Would you sacrifice five years of your life if the odds of a financially independent exit was less than 10%? Less than 10% of startups succeed, and that's before breaking that cohort into startups that barely succeed and ones that'll leave you independently wealthy.


If you're being paid $200/hr it doesn't depend on the exit.


Don't know many startup employees making $200/hr


Except for every needle that will give you that is buried in a haystack of failed ventures and empty promises.


And then you get run over by a bus.


I guess the alternative is to learn very little, have fun, run up huge debt, because why not, you're going to get run over by a bus tomorrow. But, then you don't. Well, crap.


Go ahead and postpone life then, no one will stop you; life still doesn't give a shit about plans. You should try being close do dying a couple of times, that will align your perspective with reality in no time at all.


Statistically speaking the odds are that in 5 years I'll be 5 years older, not hit by a bus, nor killed by some disease.

I'd love to be 5 years wiser and richer also :)


Some people are motivated by different things. No rate would get me to 80 hours a week: that's over 11 hours a day, every​ day which isn't healthy for any length of time. But 60 hours a week at 75% of that rate for a year or a year and a half would for me mean the ability to augment my stock and mostly passive residential real estate investments to the point where I wouldn't need to have an employment derived income. I'd strongly consider it. I'd rather be there in 18 months than 48-60, or never if I worked just enough hours to "get by" as it were.


They might do it for short stints to "get ahead" if their scheduling allows it. If I know I'm going to get that extra time off in the future or I'm getting paid for it (garaunteeing I was compensated for it) I might do it for a week or two to save up for a nice vacation or time off to do my own thing. As a manager or business owner... I'd never encourage it and possibly not allow it. The hours worked beyond 40 in a week often have drastic diminishing returns and increases in mistakes or poor thinking.


Deep breaths, all is well :)

Modern Java is a pretty decent language. Servlets, spring, JPA; and the rest of the enterprise mumbo-jumbo is mostly over-engineered crap. Same goes for design patterns, they don't even come close to pulling their own weight. I suggest focusing on learning core Java 8, and leaving the enterprise crap to the enterprise. You will learn whatever you have to learn once you're there, filling your brain with bullshit and buzzwords ahead of time isn't going to help. At least that's my take home from 32 years in software, including several years of Java consulting.

Good luck!


This bullshit needs to stop. There is plenty of proof out there that microwaves interfere with the human body in a bad way on several levels. But I guess the hundreds of thousands of people who aren't yet completely numb to the effects are just making shit up? As did the Russian scientists who got microwave ovens banned there from the start.

Suggesting that people rub Aluminum and other poisonous chemicals into their skin to protect from life giving and healing sun light is just the icing on the cake. The sun heals cancer, sun-screen causes cancer; there's plenty of statistics out there to prove this and plenty of people who are old enough to remember a time before sun screens when cancer was a non-issue.

Stupid, ignorant, techno-babbling sheeple. I honestly don't know why I bother any more, saving this kind of stupidity from itself borders on interfering with evolution.


I'll tell you why; because they're willing to sell their soul, play the game, and not ask too many questions. This system was built by assholes; which is why it rewards assholes, and why it's going down fast.


Fourth story down starts with 'Fuck you and die', pretty much sums it up for me. Facebook is the past, most people just haven't noticed yet.


Any culture that can't accept different is no culture at all. I once got fired from a startup for opting out of mandatory weekly surfing lessons, thank god in retrospect.


How the fuck is "mandatory surfing lessons" legal?


They would make some stupid shit up I'm sure. Sadly, I didn't have the resources to take them on legally. Never going to Portugal again, that much is certain.


My programmers? Who the fuck do you think that you are? These are human beings; you, not so much.


I actually saw someone advertise looking for "code monkeys". Needless to say, they still don't have any programmers.


Who are you responding to? The author of the Quora post? I know it probably took a long time to craft your argument, but you might want to read the post. He is not advocating this.

As for "my programmers", this is a shorthand and maybe not worth losing your cool about. I refer to Australia as "my country" without implying that I own Australia and "my company" without implying that I own Intel.


I was responding to this kind of reasoning even being on the radar; the caption was enough to make me feel sick, didn't feel the need to go further. More like a Freudian slip in my ears, referring to specific human beings makes all the difference. Skimming the article proves my point, all about numbers with barely a mention of humans.


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