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I haven't used a Daylight (yet) but here's a side-by-side video of them being used in sunlight: https://x.com/daylightco/status/1808213555579441214

The reMarkable has better contrast, viewing angle, and resolution, the Daylight has a far better refresh rate. There are other tradeoffs between them of course, but display-wise, those are the main ones


Many rM owners (myself included) work around the template limitations by using pdfs as "templates" and writing on them. This covers probably 95% of my use of the device, their notebooks feel very limited by comparison


If you do it this way, can you move pages around within the notebook, across different notebooks, add additional pages, delete pages, change the template for a specific page, etc? Seems like a rather crude workaround


On the reMarkable at least, you can: * move pages around in the pdf * add or duplicate pages * delete pages

You can't: * move a page to another notebook * change the template for a page (though you can duplicate a page with that template, and then move it to where the first page was)


Nice, I didn’t know about most of these features. Thanks for clearing that up.


I believe he has said the Supernote A5X is his favourite. There's a newer A5X2 coming out later this year to update it (though it has repeatedly been delayed)


I have a Supernote A5X! It's great! I got it to replace my old rm and never looked back. I also recently bought the Supernote A6X2. Not sure which I prefer size-wise. Sometimes the smaller A6X2 is great, especially for reading. Other times drawing on the A5X is more comfortable.

One thing I don't like about the A6X2 is that there is a noticeable gap between the screen and the pen. This gap isn't there (or maybe is just way smaller) on the A5X. The screen on the A6X2 is also textured, I guess to try to mimic paper, but I grew to like the gel pen feel of the A5X screen.


Also a very happy user of the A5X. Using it for about 3 years now, with a Lamy pen. I could not imagine reviewing papers sent to me as pdf without it.


The A6X2 is great as well, and fits a surprisingly small niche for smaller writing devices.

I would also love a device that is the size of a pocket notepad someday


Looking at the video there is a significant lag in the rendering. Is it noticeable when you're writing? Also looks like there is no pressure sensitivity so all the notes are come out in that ugly fat style. Maybe I'm just spoiled with my Wacom though!


> Looking at the video there is a significant lag in the rendering. Is it noticeable when you're writing?

Speaking from my experience with a remarkable, not on that device.

I think two factors contribute to this. One is that there are different rendering modes, and it uses a very fast one for updating pen strokes so there is less delay than you would guess by looking at larger updates. The other is that the stylus obscures the very end of the line anyways.


I like my A5X


I like my A6x


Ewritable is definitely my go-to resource for comparing eInk tablets (I'm a big fan of the space). Hopefully it survives the hug of death soon so more folks can discover his hard work.

I also came across https://comparisontabl.es/e-readers/ lately, which has a lot of niche and older devices, but doesn't have the same depth of coverage for the bigger incumbants.


I tried to make a similar website [1] but find very difficult to present this type of information on mobile.

So I made a full text search, but still doesn't do the trick very good.

I'd like to see a good responsive library to show this kind of comparison tables on mobile (that's where all my website visitors seems to use).

[1] https://world-of-ereader.com/find-e-reader.html


The fact that XSS isn't covered (or even mentioned!) in an article about building your own HTML templating system is a major, and dangerous, oversight


This thread with the founder has more details: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40457491


I've built something similar for myself (generating 2x-per-day pdfs for my reMarkable 2) and it's so nice to catch up on internet news on this kind of calm device instead of a laptop or phone.

I used a traditional web-based RSS reader for many years but found that I wounded up checking it just as compulsively as the sites it ostensibly replaced.


https://www.instapaper.com requires selecting individual articles, but it's how I store and read.


Instapaper has "Kindle Automatic Delivery" in settings. No need to select individual articles if you want all of them.


Furthermore, reMarkable doesn't actually sync anything. You can download files from the cloud but it's a one-way, user-initiated thing


I dunno, it seems to sync your notebooks back up to the cloud & other devices pretty well.

It’s £3/month after the first year, but it still syncs. https://remarkable.com/store/connect


Sorry, you're right in terms of their own cloud. I meant the syncing with Google Drive, Dropbox, etc, which is quite limited


Big reMarkable 2 fan here, and it's very intriguing to see some competition to traditional eInk!

Coming from the rM2, my immediate concerns are display density, and impact of the light on writing feel (both reMarkable and Ratta claim that feel suffers with the extra space between the pen tip and display).

Also as someone who makes a lot of pdf-based tools for the reMarkable, I'd love to see a video or details about the built-in pdf (and epub, hopefully!) reader


Source: I was the chief hardware engineer for this device.

The problem with eink tablets is that they must use front light, and not backlight due to how eink works. This means there is an extra layer in front of the layer where the pixels are, which causes parallax effects which makes writing feel fake. This is (likely) why remarkable deleted the frontlight from their product.

Whereas with the daylight tablet, we have a trans reflective display and a backlight. Since the backlight layer is behind the layer where the pixels are, the parallax does not suffer.

I find the experience of writing with a Wacom EMR pen on mine very pleasing :)


> Whereas with the daylight tablet, we have a trans reflective display and a backlight. Since the backlight layer is behind the layer where the pixels are, the parallax does not suffer.

> I find the experience of writing with a Wacom EMR pen on mine very pleasing :)

You are burying the lead here.

This is a big deal, competitors like Onyx Boox don't do this.

And yes, it's annoying.


I did not pick up on the frontlight/backlight distinction when reading the overview, thanks! Seems like some very novel tech here, I'd love to see more technical details when they're revealed


Reading through the specs I was pleasantly surprised to see Wacom EMR on the list, I enjoy it on my laptop and seems like it would be a great choice here. Best of luck to you and the team!


I was really impressed by the Kindle Scribe pen input. I don't suppose you've compared that and the Daylight side by side?

Actually that might make an interesting video, going through basic workflows on different tablets.


1) remarkable & ratta are traditional off the shelf eink and have to use a frontlight (above the display) which has many tradeoffs

2) daylight actually uses microperforations in our LivePaper display, so we're able to use a backlight, which in our opinion is superior in multiple ways

one of which, is what you're describing! our backlight doesnt affect writing feel or distance from pen tip to display!

(also way better contrast with BLU on with backlight)

3) thats awesome! feel free to reach out if you want to collaborate, we want to build the best PDF experiences out there as we're serious about knowledge work

anjan at daylightcomputer.com

we will share more details about our pdf reader later this summer when we do an official software launch!


Very cool! Thank you, I will be following closely and may convince myself to join Batch 3 :) And will probably reach out in a few days (I'm sure you're quite busy right now!)


Ratta (SuperNote) does not have front light. At least the A6X that I have. I don't think that the new version (Nomad) has a front light either.


https://hyperpaper.me/ – rich, customizable planner pdfs for e-Ink tablets. I have another related project that I'm slowly working on, essentially an RSS reader that sends daily pdf digests/newspapers to your tablet.

Both are very fun and rewarding, and I love building things that help spend less time in front of a (glowing) screen.


I have one! It's very good and you even helped me customize it further.


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