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Can't speak for matheusmoreira, but I think Visa should handle payments & law enforcement should handle diddlers. Turning payment processors into an extra-judicial enforcement system on top of the existing one is a mess in so many different ways (jurisdiction, lack of due process, arbitrary enforcement, financial motives, conflict of interest, lack of transparency, etc...).


Visa cut off Gab.com, on their own initiative, for incidentally carrying posts by the Pittsburgh shooter. Why didn't they exercise the same judgement against PornHub for incidentally carrying vids of child sexploitation?

They opened themselves up to this line of legal reasoning.


Why haven’t they exercised the same judgment against Google for YouTube hosting abuse or Google Search indexing abuse?


Money, probably.



TFA is about events in 2014. If anything, putting a stop to such things six years later makes them look more guilty.


That’s not a legal argument for liability. As a private company they’re perfectly free to pick who they do and don’t do business with. They just can’t do business with criminals engaged in criminality.

The only real issue is wether they knew that Pornhub had child porn.

Now if Visa said it’s technically impossible to ban someone, Gab could be used to prove that it is


It is a legal argument for liability. By reaching outside their own specialty, digging into the ethics & practices of their customers, and taking action against them, they've opened themselves up to plaintiffs & regulators. In other words, if you touch it, it's yours.

Putting themselves in the morals & enforcement business, it was only a matter of time before they were held to account for not doing a better job of it. A much stickier situation in front of a jury than being able to honestly state, "Hey, we just process payments."


Risk-reward... that's the only thing banks care about


I remember when these started taking over. Last semester's calculus class became next semester's "calculator" class. Okay for a few budding programmers; an educational decline for everyone else. And I never understood the programming appeal. Circa 1996, a thrift-store commodore was still a cheaper & better programming experience.

I was also fairly pissed about having to pay $100+ on a calculator which was wholly unnecessary for learning "area under the curve" and "slope at a point". College is such a shakedown.


This is a diversion, not a direct answer to the question asked.


Ideology doesn't factor into this. There is something in the water that shouldn't be there, and someone put it there---largely without permission. And what constitutes a "low dose" frequently changes by several orders of magnitude depending on who does the study, and who paid for the study.


I agree! I explicitly state that I don't think random pollutants are good in that comment and there could be other reasons to care about it.

I'm merely calling out that the thing most people freak out about with this compound (feminization) is not worth freaking out about.


Something in the water, that doesn't belong there, is worth freaking out about. I don't think you can decide what people decide is important to them.

I'm a woman, and I still don't want it in the water. I certainly don't want my daughter getting hormone imbalances or early irregular puberty either.


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How do you feel about people who think climate change is nothing to freak out about? I think empathy is called for here.


Ideology doesn’t factor into this?

Seems odd to say in an era where hormone therapy is being normalized and science is weaponized for ideological purposes regularly.



> We report 528 infections diagnosed between April 27 and June 24, 2022, at 43 sites in 16 countries. Overall, 98% of the persons with infection were gay or bisexual men, 75% were White, and 41% had human immunodeficiency virus infection; the median age was 38 years. Transmission was suspected to have occurred through sexual activity in 95% of the persons with infection. In this case series, 95% of the persons presented with a rash (with 64% having <10 lesions), 73% had anogenital lesions, and 41% had mucosal lesions (with 54 having a single genital lesion). Common systemic features preceding the rash included fever (62%), lethargy (41%), myalgia (31%), and headache (27%); lymphadenopathy was also common (reported in 56%). Concomitant sexually transmitted infections were reported in 109 of 377 persons (29%) who were tested. Among the 23 persons with a clear exposure history, the median incubation period was 7 days (range, 3 to 20). Monkeypox virus DNA was detected in 29 of the 32 persons in whom seminal fluid was analyzed. Antiviral treatment was given to 5% of the persons overall, and 70 (13%) were hospitalized; the reasons for hospitalization were pain management, mostly for severe anorectal pain (21 persons); soft-tissue superinfection (18); pharyngitis limiting oral intake (5); eye lesions (2); acute kidney injury (2); myocarditis (2); and infection-control purposes (13). No deaths were reported.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMoa2207323


To be fair, I think An shot himself in the foot long before the boy took over--by making a "PC" with a 16-bit bus when the standard was 8-bit. From a computer engineering perspective, it was the obvious and correct thing to do. From a business perspective, it was an epic fail.


that could be--it's been a long time, but my memory is that the network cards were Wang-specific, you couldn't use generic pc cards. They really did not get the whole PC thing. They'd basically invented office automation, but couldn't get to the next stage.


DOS was barely an operating system, so the programs had to bundle their own drivers & speak directly to the hardware for anything more than disk/compute. Because of this, that one little 8/16 change cut Wang off from the lion's share of the PC software library--first man to the gold rush, but without a pick or a shovel.

It's a shame they didn't make it though. From a technical perspective, the old man knew what he was doing.


On the one hand, he's right. On the other hand, I feel gaslit by the fact that, superficially speaking, someone has built a brand & an income around a BS token like "starmanning". I mean, we've all cast pearls before swine from time to time, but how many of you have managed to make a career out of it?


Ted wrote a book ("Computer Lib/Dream Machines", 1974). He still sells it! Ted has known how computers work, in high detail, for longer than most of us have been alive.


Yes! That book was an important contribution in its day. I wrote an appreciation of it here a few years ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22176769


Hm, I have not read that book yet, but from what I gathered, it confirmed my view - that he has a generalist understanding of computers(and the sociological impact), but lack the details and don't know how to programm himself.


As someone who has read that book, & owns it, I can attest to the fact that Ted knows more about how computers work than most people who call themselves professional programmers (I know, I know, low bar..., but even so).

If this were a forum, instead of a plantation, I could post selections from it, and you could see for yourself.


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