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Unless Carmack doesn’t have the ability to quit, he’s choosing to continue working for Zuck every day.

As is every other fb employee.


Spare some disdain for the people who choose to work for him.

They deserve it: they commit the evil for far smaller a payoff.


I wonder if facebook employees really think they paper over the harm they do each day by renaming their company.

if you call it something else does it still hurt people?


Can’t read the article, but did they quit the company when their pleas didn’t work?

If not, they changed their opinion and now support/accept their employer’s decision or decided the issue wasn’t that important.


45,000 fb employees choose every day to work for him. The responsibility for what fb is is just as much theirs.

If they didn’t agree with fb’s actions they’d leave.


100% true.

If a software engineer writes software that hurts people, they believe in hurting people and believe people should be hurt.

If they didn’t, they wouldn’t write software that hurts people.

The impressive amount of freedom tech workers have to choose what they work on means the ethical and moral issues with their production should fall on each person’s shoulders, but it doesn’t.


This attitude implies an unambiguous, black and white world where such decisions are always clear. In other words, a fantasy world which does not exist.


I agree it's a bit hyperbolic. But it seems weird to suggest that developers, who are hired for their intellectual power and subtlety, are great at figuring out the implications of complex decisions except when ethics are involved.

I think it's more likely that their sudden inability in this one aspect is related to Upton Sinclair's observation: " It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."


It's a video scrub bar. Calm down.


FB is what it is because 45,000 employees work hard daily to make it that way.

if they weren't satisfied with how it works or what it does, they'd fix it or they'd leave. every day they continue to work there without changing direction, they vote with their time that FB is doing what it ought to be doing.

all of the responsibility for FB's effects on the world belongs to them.


The Onion said it best: "I just bought a boat!"

https://youtu.be/-DiBc1vkTig


I'd like to try this if there was an option to do so without giving Facebook money.


If Facebook employees weren’t happy with the product they spend so much of their time shaping and building they’d leave.


Blast from the past!

My good friend Daniel Horn started developing this right around when I met him in high school.


Hi! Just noticed this post :-) I started the game in the late 90’s and open sourced it in 2001 The previous versions were win Mac Linux but the current dev team has been focusing on Linux right now.

At the time there were some mod communities like privateer Gemini gold with a polished release and Vega Trek; those also had windows builds that also work on wine. You might need to install into a folder with read/write permissions.


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