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This would be reasonable if Terra was a clear scam. But it wasn’t.

Terra was a successful blockchain.

Investors lost money and they had to blame the leader.


"Successful" seems a rather generous description. If an apartment building is built on quicksand and collapses overnight, are the people who bought apartments the ones to blame?


At some point if you’re buying your apartment in a vast field of quicksand surrounded by hundreds of other sinking and sunk buildings… yes?


Let's not pretend that people who put money into such crypto "investments" don't know exactly what is going on. The goal is always to pull money out before the inevitable collapse and leave some other sucker holding the bag. And if you get too greedy and don't manage to do it in time just cry fraud and turn to the government for help. After hundreds of such high profile incidents this is still regularly happening today (see the "Hawk Tuah coin" for example). I have no sympathy for anyone involved in these scams, whether perpetrator or victim.


There were plenty of unwitting, first-time crypto investors in the case of HAWK. The reason that influencers like Ms. Welsh are of such great value to crypto scammers is that they introduce or legitimize crypto investment to new unexperienced and unwitting investors.

These folks are scammers, the people who fall for the scams are victims.


If you are buying in a region entirely located on quicksand, with the intent of selling it off for more before it sinks - yes.


What happens if the developer has built a fake level that hides the quicksand so that you don’t find out about until later?


I think "successful blockchain" means like "successful crime".


"successful blockchain"

Ponzi schemes are often successful until they aren't.


The parent also claimed a false premise: Do Kwon wasn't running a "clear" scam.

PAYING* 4.5 billion in SEC fines for FRAUD and running around with forged passports check that box for me.

*edit: AFAIK, the firm is going through bankruptcy and hasn't necessarily paid anything yet.


The NY stock exchange will be successful right up until it isn’t, the only difference is that it’s backed by a very powerful military.


>the only difference is that it’s backed by a very powerful military.

No, actually there are lots of material differences between the NYSE and Yet Another Shitcoin.


I specifically remember that time and anyone that believed 20% APY could go on forever was either stupid or fooling themselves. And when you said this you were attacked so I’ve never had a bit of sympathy for them.


how is what do did different from what marketers did?

I think building something interesting, but not marketing it to investors, should be legal/ok, but the moment you start telling the story of this product being a safe 20% return investment is when you need to get in trouble.


It had a death loop which got triggered by market pressure on a stablecoin leading to a run on the native token which actually made it converge to zero: can't get much more unsuccessful than that.


Do Kwon was accused of misleading investors.

Has anyone been able to work out how he misled people yet?


Presumably, we'll find out now that he's being extradited to stand trial here in the US.

The complaint is here: https://www.sec.gov/enforcement-litigation/distributions-har...


His stablecoin claims failed. He lied about other firms (Chai) using his tech.

NY is hunting him for wire fraud and a few other criminal charges.


His problem is that he’s one person instead of being an institution that mislead people about mortgages


Yes, even a cursory review of the evidence is pretty clear.


Bitcoin has a proof of work based blockchain.

The length and story of the chain is a unique experiment, unlikely to be replicated ever again in my opinion


The length and story of the chain bears no value


To you it may be hideous but to many, it’s one of the most attractive cars on the road


Even if it were the most beautiful thing ever built would you still spend 5x more for something that doesn’t work?


Doesn't work? You definitely can drive it.

Why people buying it? To show off. Why people are buying Mercedes G-wagon? Or several expensive watches?


Depends on a definition of “many”. Trump is regarded as a great leader by “many”. I guess the sets have a big intersection?


You might even say a majority.


>You might even say a majority.

One might, but that would be incorrect. Trump received ~77,000,000 votes[0], which was 49.9% of the votes cast. As such, plurality is the appropriate term in this case.

What's more, there were ~240,000,000 eligible voters and ~161,000,000 registered voters at the time of the 2024 election.[1]

So the winner received less than a majority of votes cast by a small margin, and less so among registered voters (~48%) and even less so among eligible voters (32%).

[0] https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-ELECTION/RESULTS/zjpqne...

[1] https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/election-explained-ho...


Fair point, A plurality indeed.


Trump received the majority of casted votes.

People would agree that the Labour government in Britain received the majority of votes in the recent UK elections.

But they had only received 33.7% of casted votes. Which is 20% among eligible voters.

Majority = a greater number


>Trump received the majority of casted votes.

Majority: (n.):[0]

   1: a number or percentage equaling more than half of a
      total

      a majority of voters

      a two-thirds majority
N.B.: Donald Trump received 49.9% of total votes cast. That is (by the American definition -- we don't follow your rules) a plurality, not a majority.

Feel free to quibble about whose definition is correct. I'm sure the King will richly reward you for defending his English.

[0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/majority

Edit: Fixed formatting.


Staking has over 7,000 now

They plan to launch 34,400 satellites


Google claims their in the ad market. Not the search market.


Facebook is on a similar scale in the ad market, Facebook makes even larger share of their money on ads and aren't making that much less money.


Google helps us lookup anything we want

Amazon helps us buy anything we want

Facebook helps us keep in touch with all of our friends easily

Their not as good a they used to be but how are they not good?


Google provided a useful lookup service at the expense of brainwashing society with consumerist propaganda and the complete destruction of personal privacy and the normalization of the surveillance state. It wasn't worth it.

Amazon inspired us to think we needed more cheap crap in order to inspire us to buy cheap crap that we didn't need. We aren't any happier than we were before we had the ability to buy cheap crap on a whim, but we sure do have a lot more cheap crap than before. That wasn't worth it.

Facebook is essentially as good at helping people keep in touch as any instant messenger that preceded it. But unlike those instant messengers, it's supported by invasive targeted ads, and consult the first paragraph for why this is a negative.

This has all been a waste. Society isn't any better as a result of these companies existing.


Google built a profit model on the original organic internet while facilitating that web's replacement with today's wonderful SEOable 'content'.


Google & Facebook push the advertising/attention economy business model, which rewards spreading misinformation & extreme viewpoints, leading to the rise in conspiracy theories and breakdown in discourse & trust in public institutions we see today. Amazon has killed a lot of local retail, removing OK jobs and replacing them with low-paying/low-skill warehouse labor.

I think there's arguments for both sides, but personally I land on the net-evil side for all 3 of the listed companies.


I think Huly would appeal to people who find peace of mind when using one companies tool, rather than 5 companies tools to do everything they need.

Similar to how Notion became popular to people who wanted to use the same app for journaling, knowledge management and CRM, for home and work.

Hopefully Huly pulls it off, having so many features that work well isn’t an easy task.


No more hacker news alternatives please


The .io domain was originally run by a guy who didn’t really have the UK’s official backing. He was basically just depositing money into the accounts of different overseas territories for the domains he was selling, and they seemed to be fine with it. Eventually, he sold it off, and now a hedge fund owns it.

The British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT) will eventually stop existing, which means its ISO country code would go away too. But domain names tied to countries have outlasted countries before—like .su from the old USSR. IANA would likely prioritize keeping all the existing .io domains working over worrying about whether the country behind it still exists.

Google already treats .io more like a generic top-level domain (gTLD), similar to .nu, .to, or .tv, since most of the sites using it have a global audience, not just people from the small island it’s technically tied to.


The island of Diego Garcia is excluded from the deal, so it might still stay as BIOT


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