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ADAM - An iPad-like device from NotionInk, India (notionink.in)
88 points by ananthrk on April 30, 2010 | hide | past | favorite | 49 comments



Major Victory if the "transflective LCD" is at least partially usable in sunlight. My iPad becomes an extraordinarily effective mirror the instant the sun comes out.


I use my for tanning when outdoors.


b/w mode works in sunlight.


worked nice on Nokia N810 tablet


I've been watching this device for a while, it truly is one of the most promising non-Apple tablet devices. The android jungle is being filled with creatures, and they are starting to breed :)


where hardware talks to software more often

that sounds silly enough that they might be on to something. i had to think about that for about 30 seconds. then i realized, that is probably the name of the game in this semi-embedded/tablet space. the fact that they are so focused on that, to the detriment of making sense, is a good sign, i think.


I thought about it for 30 seconds and didn't get the light bulb. Could you share your thoughts?


[hardware]---constant-jibba-jabba--->[software]


Right. :) Basically, it sounds like they're utilizing the hardware as much as possible. '...more often [than other tablets or than would seem normal]'. I.e., more gpu or more specialized use of the hardware, less general-purpose cpu.

The interesting thing about Steve Jobs' final argument in his letter is that he fully recognizes the importance of this in the embedded space, and he gives that as a reason for avoiding middleware layers. But this is obviously a curious point, considering Flash has been ramping up towards GPU-based things since before the iPad was probably first planned.

Anyway, one can debate all one wants about the colorful histories of Apple, Adobe, and recently tablets, etc. These folks seem focused. Good luck to them all.


With the cancellation of Courier and Windows tablet, I would't hold out for this.

Yes, there is a working demo but until I see a release date, I won't take this product as a contender against the IPad.


I share your skepticism, but this has nothing to do with Courier.

Courier was a concept video, not a piece of hardware or software. It was never a working demo, or anything close to it.


The eInk option is what would make this a winner for me. The other bells and whistles are nice too, though.


There's a video of the actual device in use here:

http://www.slashgear.com/notion-ink-adam-flash-ipad-comparis...


The notionink.in site is terrible, and I went into this prepared to be entirely dismissive of whatever the video contained, but I was really impressed. It looks like a legitimately cool device.


now... I'd gladly pay as much as for an iPad for a device that gives me (a) the basic functionality you'd use on an iPad (web browsing, calendar, pdf viewer) but also (b) enables you to use any kind of application, including your own, without paying extra for a "developer account" or requiring to jailbreak the thing.

That said, yes they have a prototype, but are they any closer to market than the WePad (also Android)?


been following this company for a while, really fascinating design. Hope they keep the pixel qi screen in their final product


I'm still not sure whether i should buy a tablet or not. But if i buy one, i will definitely wait for this one. From my point of view it has a lot of strengths compared to the iPad. The screen in the first place.


I thought it was entertaining to see their website looking very similar to Apple's.

That said, Steve Jobs has pissed me off enough recently that I hope this gains traction.

Apple and Facebook have gotten too uppity with our rights. With all the other sh*t going on in the world at some point people will have had enough and will start pushing back on this crap.


Is it any 'iPad killer' with similar to iPad screen? 768 lines IPS is much better then 600 lines (TN?) screen.


The transflective display is definitely a plus.

I can't believe Apple didn't put something like this on the iPad.


Despite the great number of horror stories, India is a successful exporter of software; less so for hardware. Has any Indian startup managed to create a consumer device that is used worldwide? If not, ADAM could really be a first. An exciting prospective.


This is completely game changing if:

1) they can do it

2) the price is sub $700

If they can do that, the Slate, iPad, etc. can go home now.


I think they sure can do it. They have come so far. My gut feel about the price is ~500$.

What will be interesting to see is the apps. Apart from the browser what apps will the iNotion have?


But isn't that just it? It will have the entire web of apps. And they're all free.


You mean just like the iPad can run web apps for free?

The same web apps that everyone decries for not providing the rich experience of native apps?


Local Interview with the CEO, they are in talks with Mobile operators to launch it in India at a subsidized price of 250-275$


Sounds great. I couldn't be pulling for them more. Go India!


Well, these guys are touting themslelves as ipad killer.. http://bit.ly/aYhAXY possibly wrong strategy for a startup?


I don't understand this:

"It's not a tablet or an ebook reader, it's a new species"

Is that marketing hyperbole or did I miss something fundamental about what they are doing?


I read it as: Tablet = Works great in Dimly lit areas (Backlighting) eBook Reader = Works Great in Sunlight.

If true, then it really is a new species, neither iPad nor Kindle.


The capabilities of Google Earth and Maps would make for a killer travel guide. There's one problem, however. LCDs don't look so great outdoors in the sunlight. The transflective screen would make such a use feasible, comfortable, and possibly slick.


You also need a cellphone connection to use google maps/earth. If you're exploring a city, i think the phone form factor is more convenient. If you're out in the wilderness, you probably don't have an Internet connection.


Google Maps relies (currently) on a connection, but there are plenty of map applications for iPhone and Android that will let you pre-download maps and then track your location via GPS.


I believe they are planning models with 3G and wifi :)


wilderness.


its a hyperbole :) check this mockery of steve jobs http://bit.ly/aYhAXY


Hyperbole is my educated guess.


this is the best demo i have seen of the adam tablet, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQvefuCHZds Im very excited, i hope it measures up to the iPad and other tablets, it seems to have some very cool features


I wonder if there is any newer videos. Its a nice idea with the swivel camera


Does anybody know about a release date?


June apparently, which isn't that long after non-US countries get the iPad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_tablet


Great looking product - they'll have a hard time out-marketing Apple though. This seems like a market where second place is as good as dead.

Good luck to them.

As a side note - there's at least a billion dollars to be made by the first company that develops a fingerprint/smudge free screen - every used iphone i've seen looks gross

Also 1080p on a screen that small is v.nice. The high DPI should make for a nice ebook reader.


It'll play 1080p content, but not at 1080p (unless you're using HDMI) - the screen resolution is only 1024*600, which is lower than even 720p.


Oops I read '1080p Full HD video playback' as 'has a full HD screen' - wishful thinking maybe :)


The iPad/iPhone is frankly too expensive in the Indian market. The market is huge though. Their price point in India should be much lower than the iPad's and that should give them an advantage.

Internationally, that's a different story altogether.


I don't see how their price point can be lower since they are using commodity components. Their contribution is the software+hardware combo.

In fact they will probably never come even close to competing on price. Hardware is a tricky game and most is sold at below production cost e.g. consoles and also I imagine the iPod. This loss is recouped through software licensing or in Apple's case the app store. This probably wont be an option for these guys since they are building on an open platform.


But they do gain a substantial savings for not having to incur any licensing or development costs on the OS.


Yes, but if they are selling the hardware pretty close to cost they will not make much money.


The screen is 1024x600.




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