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I had an accident in October. I've looked around for cars since this time and I really can't pull the trigger on any ICE cars. Even when factoring how cheap ICE cars are it becomes even more clear that for a few thousand dollars more I could eliminate oil/gas maintenence all together. The convienence alone is worth the 5k. I really don't know whats holding people back from such a superior product.



Many of us are waiting for affordable electric minivans that can sit 7 or 8. There's a lot of big families in America.


Same for me but with an actual real usable truck. I know that they tend to get vilified around here but as someone who uses the functions of it every single day, I have a feeling we're going to be waiting a while.


I bet in the next few years we'll see GM toss out an electric Colorado for all their municipal fleet customers that need something cheap to run from 9-5 and can be plugged in every evening and Ford will probably offer an EV F150 of some sort.

If you're waiting for either of the brands that start with T and end with A (which, let's be honest here are the only brands most people here will buy a truck from, because reasons) to make a traditional style pickup that happens to be electric you'll be waiting a long time because one has gone all in on being unconventional with their trucks and the other is allergic to new technology.


We bought a Chrysler Pacifica PHEV (plugin hybrid) minivan back in March 2018 and its been running fairly well. It has about 30-35 mile electric-only range and with my wife mostly doing just local in-city driving, we usually can get about 80-90% of the miles as electric-only.

It seats 7 comfortably and while not fully electric, it scratches our electric-car itch fairly well. Even in hybrid-only mode, we can get 28-30 mpg .. and in "electric" mode, it registers as about 65-75 mpg.


The Tesla Model Y and Model X both have 7 seater options. It wouldn't be as big as a minivan, but it does seat 7.


Affordable probably being the key word there.


Still early in the technology's development and permeation of society. Was just a few years ago that EVs were simply not feasible. Now they're downright common in some areas (Atlanta), have reached "affordable" (Tesla 3 in $30k range, good used Leaf for $6k), and options extend to 7-seat vehicles. The 6-seat Cybertruck will start in the $30k range. "Affordable 7-seat" is just a matter of time.


I mean the X is effectively a six digit purchase after sales tax (or a few options, like self-driving). It's not coming down that much. And $70K more than a new Voyager is... a lot.


Cybertruck promises 6 seats at $39,900.

Minivan is the next obvious incarnation of EV.


I’m personally waiting for one that costs less than $30k before incentives that is comparable to an ICE sedan/crossover in everything besides the power train. Because that doesn’t exist.


The Hyundai Kona and Kia Niro fit the bill pretty well after incentives (About $30k and $32k after federal incentive and plus destination charge and both will qualify for federal incentives in the US for quite a while... not counting California incentives). Limited availability, unfortunately, but they do exist.


I wish these cars were sold in all states. They are only sold on the coasts. It doesn't bode will for the companies when they drag there feet on electric vehicles. It's hard to purchase something with confidence.


Not sure if Tesla will sell something for less than 35k (yes, you can get the basic Model 3 for this price, I have it) but you have options from other manufacturers which can be very appealing if you get a good lease deal.


This is it for us. I’d happily drop my ICE minivan for a similar electric. Doesn’t need to go fast. Just needs to hold the family, the luggage, the dogs. I need function, not luxury.

Model Y could be interesting. The new Pacifica is stepping in the right direction.


My living situation, for one: I have no easy way to charge the thing while living in an apartment complex. That anxiety alone keeps me from going to a dealership. Range anxiety doesn't bother me, just the ability to keep the thing going every week without going way out of my way.


We're in a short term rental at the moment; I charge in the garage at 117V/12A (typical 120V/15A outlet) getting my Model S 4 miles of range per hour of charging. If I need to top up faster, our local grocery store has a Supercharger; we go grocery shop while the car fuels up (and it takes longer to shop than to fill the vehicle).

Several states require an apartment complex to allow you to install a charger (at your own cost). I think you'll see renters starting to make rental choices based on EV charger availability, too early to tell though. As a landlord, I've installed EV charging stations at no cost for my tenants, gotta be the change you want to see.


Nightly charging maintenance, to me, sounds worse than oil/gas maintenance.


It's trivial. I plug in at home and at work. I haven't visited a gas station in 6 months. Have a "full tank" every time I leave home and work. And my car is warm when I leave for work in the morning and when I head home at night.

It's like plugging your laptop in when you get to the office.


No worse than plugging in your cellphone before bed. You park at home, you plug it in; 10 seconds.

Most ICE adherents still don't grasp: every morning, your EV is "topped off" and ready to go full range. Rare long trips aside, you never have to "go to the station to fill up" - which you must every few days with gas.


Huh? I think it's one of the major upsides with an EV. Your "tank" is always full in the morning. No "Dang it, need to go and fuel up" first thing when leaving.


Nothing like downvotes for personal preference. People have different driving habits and desires, how does surprise anybody??




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