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The same goes for the Japanese.

Empty apologies are empty. They need to know that the issue is "owned," regretted, a solution/amend is offered, and it won't happen again. Not a fun time.

Americans, in my experience, don't care. They just find satisfaction in being a bit "better than" I am, and their reactions are purely emotion-driven. They usually would try to pile extra transgressions (that I was not responsible for) onto my apology. Lots of shaming involved.

It was annoying, but I got used to not reacting. Since most of my bosses were Japanese (not really a fun bunch to work for), I didn't need to face the music with Americans too often.

I will say that the end result was that I was given an awesome level of trust and respect. It was the kind very few foreigners ever have.



What profession were you in? I’ve worked at ~10 software companies throughout my career and fessing up to causing an issue was seen as much worse than admitting you fucked up.


I was an engineer and a manager of software development for a very well-known, arch-conservative Japanese optics corporation.

I worked there for just shy of 27 years. LOTS of 14-hour flights (shudder).

But I am not Japanese, so it's quite possible they treated me differently from others.

My experience was, they had a difficult time, trusting non-Japanese. They tended to pull me in, when dealing with westerners.

It was not a "peaches and cream" job. In many ways, it was quite difficult and stressful, but I was in a "silo" of extremely honorable, incredibly high-quality people for a couple of decades.

In all, it was a very different experience than many Americans have had. I am glad for the experience, but also relieved to have it behind me. Although I am an excellent manager, I am most comfortable developing software. Being good at something is not the same as being happy doing it.

I'm not-so-bad at software development, but it's a much bigger pond.

Coming from that corporation, into the modern development landscape in the US has been a...revelation.


> I was in a "silo" of extremely honorable, incredibly high-quality people for a couple of decades

Have you written more about your experiences during this period? I would love to read them!


Not especially. It is a corporation that is very protective of its privacy and secrets.

I tend not to name it, even though it's fairly easy to figure out.

I don't want to cause them any stress or harm. Even though I wish things had gone somewhat differently, I retain the greatest respect for the corporation, and its employees and officers.


Ricoh?


No. Feel free to check out my SO Story: https://stackoverflow.com/cv/chrismarshall

I don’t mention them by name, so my comments don’t show up on their radar screen.

I don’t think I ever say anything that would be an issue, but I don’t want to be in the position of having to explain myself. They protect their brand ferociously.

Once you see who, you will understand.




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