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The Air in the article is fanless.


Right, and I think some benchmarks I've seen this morning indicate that it throttles during more intensive tasks. The Pro benchmarks better, the only difference being the fan.


But only after 10+ minutes of full load according to tests. And only after 30 minutes do you get noticeably performance drops (around 20% or so).

For developers, for instance, I really doubt you're going to commonly have 30 minutes of full load in your normal workflow.


All CPUs throttle, all of the time. It's been years since anyone shipped a high-performance processor without a closed-loop dynamic thermal control system.


Having a throttling mechanism != the throttling mechanism is engaged

With enough cooling, you can operate a CPU at full tilt and never engage the throttle.


If your CPU always runs at its steady-state temperature that means it sucks and it leaving performance on the table. A CPU that can run at a steady 3 GHz (or whatever) should be capable of 5+ GHz momentarily given the right initial conditions.


Thermals are not the only factor that limits clock speeds. For instance, gate switching times are also a factor.

Although if you're saying the M1's performance "sucks", I can't wait to see the next iteration.


You're choosing the argument first and then trying to justify it post hoc. That's the downside of having these conversations in thread format; it's easy to disagree, and tough to acknowledge that the other guy can be right about some things and wrong about others.

Sure, the critical path setup and hold time limit clock speeds, but that's not the reason for throttling a chip that can turbo at a higher clock. Even if it were, certain operations with a shorter critical path could run at faster clock even when hot.

If thermals weren't the dominant factor, you wouldn't need better cooling to overclock.

My perspective (correct me if wrong):

Hot semiconductors can damage themselves, and this becomes more important as the lithography shrinks. Binning is designed to identify which silicon can be pushed harder and which is not quite up to the task.

I agree with the other guy that if your CPU always runs at its steady-state temperature that means it is leaving performance on the table.


According to one reviewer it takes 8 minutes before it starts to throttle.


After 8 minutes




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