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>I am doubtful if any Army officer, even if they are Sikh, will support what happened at the Red fort. Also the protests were supposed to be representative of are farmers, not just Sikh farmers. Giving it a religious angle will be detrimental to the protests.

Not sure what's the fuss. People who disrespected the flag are on the record. Police can arrest them. Why to malign the whole community?

BJP has disrespected the Indian flag so many times by flying their own party flag above the national flag.


Never said anything about red fort & army. I repeat, Nishan Sahib & Jaikaara is official war cry & flag of Sikh Regiment. Home minister, prime minister, president salutes to it in every republic day parade. Modi wears that Khanda symbol oh head when visting Gurudwaras.

Rajnath, on visit to a army post,asked a Sikh Officer to do the War Cry.

Link: for proof: Rajnath Singh asking for Jaikaara https://youtu.be/hkLx4X3yjeg


People have a religion. And most of the times their religion is not the same as yours.

Get used to this fact.


Seems like as long its not Hindu religion its fine.


I am used to that fact. My comment doesn't oppose anyone's right to follow their religion in any way. I would have opposed the act even if the flag belonged to some other entity. And for the record, we are talking about hooliganism which has caused injuries to scores of people.


The BJP has won and lost elections that were run using EVMs. They literally won a national election and lost state elections in the same EVM run elections. Are you going to tell me about Biden supporters somehow having stolen the presidential election while losing house seats by ballot stuffing now?

I am half Sikh and many members of my family served in the Indian military, including in Sikh regiments. I would FAR prefer a BJP central government to a Congress one. Before you listen to another word of Congress propaganda, google the Delhi Sikh Riots and the role senior Congress party members like Kamal Nath played in them. The BJP may not be particularly erudite English speakers and may deliberately choose not to participate in debates at Oxford like a Shashi Tharoor might. They don’t want care to play to a western audience in that manner. But unlike the Congress they don’t put mafioso or wife killers in senior positions no matter how suave they may be.

Trump and Modi are not from the same Universe. Modi noticed Trump loves adulation and let him have all he wanted. That is just smart diplomacy.


No worries, I understand. Many sikhs here support Trump. Mostly who are here since ages, & are businessman, does not pay minimum wage, employ & exploit asylum seekers. And I am also sikh, although does not wear any sikh symbols like Hair Turban.

No where I said we need congress government. Modi dictator need to go away. India was progressing way way more in Manmohans rule (yes, there were million bad issues were too, no denial). But Modi's rule is dictatorship.

Delhi 1984 need to be punished, by Singh's or by Government, or by people. Yes, that includes Rajiv, Indiara, Kamal Math, Everybody who was involved. #NeverForget1984

You can't even compare Biden Support to modi Supporters. Biden won fair & square. The greatest president has world's most secure elections under his rule, & fraud happened? No, he lost it. Simple. I am Democrat pro, want Sanders, but will work with Biden, because the other option was Twice Impeached Orange. Never. A lesser evil is better than bigger one.

RSS has a MBA Think Tank in Nagpur, thinking over every next move to keep the power clutched in their bloody hands forever. Its a rouse that winning every election will seem sus, so lets lose some smaller ones.

Serving in military does not give one a certificate of something. Its a profession. Nobody is forced. Its for money, just like any other profession. Teachers, Cashiers, Servers, Firefighters are equally important. Nothing morally special about being you or family in military. Millions of racist bigots work in every country's military, thinking themselves as Patriots, but infact are just racist.


Also to be clear, I’m not super pro BJP or anyone. I’m pro competence. I’m certainly not pro some of the nonsense that the various state BJP governments pull, including the past beef related hysteria.

Modi himself is not pro that nonsense as he has mentioned more than once. However, to govern he does need to create a big tent. Beef ban vs 15% of Indian women legally treated as chattel. Which battle would you prioritize?

As far as India doing better under Manmohan Singh? I like Manmohan Singh. I think if he actually had freedom to act rather than being a puppet he would have done really well. But frankly, in terms of how the country did it’s not even close. And if the Congress won again, you wouldn’t get Manmohan Singh. You’d get Rahul or Kamal Nath.


I don't understand how banning beef has anything to do with Indian women being treated as chattel.

You can prevent the latter without dictating my food habits. Also, if you're so intent on saving the cow, why is India still the world's largest exporter of beef? Because banning exports of beef will hurt the corporate masters who fund the BJP.


Exactly, many of the beef factory owners are BJP members or Supporters. It should be simple to rule, provide safety, & quality of life, but dont dictate what to eat or wear or marry or sing or dance. As long as its not a defined crime, people should be able to decide if they want to eat beef or celebrate valentine.


Just to be clear I’m not a Trump supporter as you seem to imply. Gave money to and voted for Biden, both in the primary and the general.


>You can't even compare Biden Support to modi Supporters. Biden won fair & square

So did Modi. His victory in elections was accepted by all his rivals as fair and square.

> But Modi's rule is dictatorship.

How is it a dictatorship? Modi won fair and square in an election conceded by all his rivals. If you don't like him, then vote him out. If you cannot vote him out, then you can claim to it being a dictatorship.

But you can go and vote him out. And sorry, the majority of the country not accepting your views to vote him out is democracy, not dictatorship.


You are correct that Modi won popular vote. But this one chancellor who is rather a poster child of being a bad boy won his election too. Note also the fact that only about 50% of the people exercised their vote so there is a large fraction who aren't that enthused about Modi




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