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One thing I don't understand: why is the (relatively small) entertainment industry still so much more effective at lobbying than the (relatively large) tech industry? Google, Facebook, ISPs and others would seem to have a strong incentive to not want excessive regulation of their industry. So why aren't they stepping up to the plate and countering the entertainment business' lobbying efforts with serious bucks?



Google has been stepping up. (Google it.) Facebook has been hiring a lot of "Washington insiders" for awhile now. Etc.

While pg talks about HN as a community of (historically) "apolitical nerds" as a positive thing[1], but being apolitical will catch up with you eventually if you have anything worth losing. If members of congress don't have programmers in their mind as future frothing voters, or people who would ever support them, that's probably a bad thing.

[1]I do agree a lot of the political 'discussions' on HN aren't worth having here, and create a lot of noise, but I know way too many apolitical tech savvy individuals. At least make it known to whoever is in office that they do not want you against them, and be willing to pick a side.


French Proverb: "Those who do not do politics will be done in by politics."


The 'relatively small' entertainment industry is part of the hugely influential media business, upon which our 'representatives' are especially dependent.


I'm sorry, where does relatively small come in here? We are talking about companies like Fox (I'm sorry, what was the parent company?) and the entire music/film industry. Google/Facebook pale in comparison.

The dying industries are the middle-men. They are fighting back.


Based on market cap Google is about four times the size of News Corp.


The video game industry is twice the size of the film industry. Music is around 13 billion a year (record sales) and falling fast.


Various other posters question the assertion that the entertainment industry is small:

Computers and Electronics: 1.1M people employed http://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iag334.htm

Motion Pictures and Music: 365k people employed http://www.bls.gov/iag/tgs/iag512.htm

Computer and tech sector workers get paid more on average per hour as well. That said, the entertainment industry is probably a bigger exporter relative to its size (how many foreign movies do we watch?) and is also REALLY good at creative accounting. Maybe it's actually making a lot more money than the figures say.

I think you can lump a whole pile of extra industry sectors in with entertainment and still not get close to the tech sector.

So it's definitely a case of disproportionate lobbying.


Sadly, the entertainment industry is much larger and has a lot more money than the tech industry. And yes, Google, Facebook and other large companies are stepping up - they're the reason most people are even aware of the issues...


Really? Do you have numbers to support this?


Depends on how you look at it.

The traditional entertainment industry (movies, tv, and music) is very small. But put 'broadcasting', which is part of the 'information' industry, and it is comparable to the tech industry. Add in the fact that media companies are vital to politicians, and the result is an industry that punches orders of magnitude above its weight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States#Se... http://www.bea.gov/scb/pdf/2008/05%20May/0508_indy_acct.pdf




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