A lot of european companies would. You’d be surprised how often saas clients told me to _never_ allow client data to get anywhere near a us company. People around europe are very privacy aware.
It's something most Americans don't appreciate. Half of Europe suffered under or from a totalitarian regime not that long ago and set up their respective barriers.
Some people give it lip service in America for political points but they don't understand it on a fundamental level - most of them would turn around and complain about why google street view doesn't work in Germany.
I say this as someone who has bounced around between both sides of the pond
> Half of Europe suffered under or from a totalitarian regime not that long ago and set up their respective barriers.
Meanwhile Denmark: “It’s time to fill out your yearly tax declaration! Actually, you don’t have to bother! We already pulled your data from EVERYWHERE…”.
I actually think that's not "that wrong". You pay social security to the government, you pay car tax to the government and (to some part in Switzerland) the health insurances are tightly coupled to the government. Bank statements missing and the government already has 80% of your tax form.
Still you need to put in everything again, each year.
Are you kidding? If this happened in America we'd never hear the end of it from Europeans.
Obviously, the government would love to just pilfer around in the computers of private citizens and businesses without "filling out forms", but that's not a good reason to give it to them.
They don’t get to ‘pilver around the computers of private citizens’ though. Only those citizens directly affected by an existing hack (I read it as being under control of the hacker).
If I had the choice between just a nefarious hacker, and both the nefarious hacker and the NL security services having access to my PC I’d choose the latter.
Not just banks, many large enterprises have such requirements. Keep all personal data inside the EU, it's just easier for them to mitigate risks that way.
But all three major clouds offer several European data centers so it's really not such a big deal.
Seems they're aiming to capture the market of people who want "green" clouds, not "European" clouds. Besides, if you just want better and cheaper AWS, there is so many options already.
This is for Amazon as a whole (so not AWS) but recent news (26 May 2023) seems that they are targeting net-zero by 2040:
"The ecommerce giant recently backed out of a commitment to make 50% of its shipments net-zero carbon by 2030. Amazon said in a statement that it would roll this goal into a broader Climate Pledge to reach net-zero carbon across all its operations by 2040. That's a decade later than the 50% goal, which was called "Shipment Zero" at the time." [0]
Straightforward synthesis of widely known information regarding incompatibility between the laws of the countries (GDPR/CLOUD Act). If US companies can't process the data of EU citizens because they are unable to say no to the US spying apparatus, or even keep them at arms length, where do you think that leaves them?
a beautiful retirement home is still a retirement home.
you either grow your own economy or become a vassal to someone else who does.
if europe keeps stagnating and america keeps posting 4% gdp growth, a day will come when the EU can pass as many laws as they like and it won't matter. it'll be like some shitpoor latin american country against united fruit.
"economy" is a meme - both china and the EU realized that this anglo-american system has its weaknesses which can be exploited
The Chinese did it by just taking all the IP they could get as a requirement to sell in their nation
The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax)
The capitalistic system is an addict to access to markets. Governments setup their various Guardrails to ensure that it can't entirely (i lack a nice word for this verb) their society and peoples.
> The Europeans did it by requiring companies to abide by their new law or pay out fines(basically a quasitax)
This works only because EU is a relatively big and wealthy economy. If, say, Chile or Botswana tried to do the same, US companies would be like “lol, bye”. If, or when the Europe becomes just as poor as these relative to US, the incentive for US companies to stay in Europe and pay these ridiculous fines, will simply not be there, and so they will leave.
Thus, if Europe’s strategy is to impose more and more strict regulations and taxes on US companies, it must return to growing in wealth in power. Otherwise, this strategy will backfire: not only Europe will stay poor, but also the highly productive companies will exit it.
Yes, the Americans are not as effective at war on drugs as Europeans, which is why we have very high rates of death from overdoes, which is the main driver of low life expectancy.
they're dying sooner because of diseases of ... affluence.
and we can expect the new weight loss drugs to make a noticeable dent in that (at the cost of who-knows-what side effects, but they can't be as big a killer as obesity)
china is the world's factory, arabs have oil. what does europe make?
the way things are going, there will eventually be an american company with a market cap greater than the GDP of France or Germany. at that point, they'll be making the real rules.
Do we know they're paying peanuts as salary at this point? There are a lot of companies in Europe who will pay engineers 200k+ EUR and beyond, however admittedly nearly all are US companies or very closely connected to the US capital markets
this blurs further with UK leaving Europe. Berlin doesn't pay much. And what's left then? Paris? Or Stockholm Sweden? Even the CxO's there don't make much more than 200K
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