We don't care about any of that; we just care about HN discussions being fresh and interesting vs. tedious and boring. Generic flamewar tangents are the latter, especially when they're re-repeated as often as this one has, so please don't take threads in those directions.

If you have a substantive point to make about resale value, or something like that, that's totally fine, as long as you do it in a way that isn't flamefodder/snark/name-calling.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

which is why I made a substantive point.

"I guess you could trade it in for a real car" is not a substantive point, it's a sneering putdown - basically the same joke as https://web.archive.org/web/20190304153147/https://dilbert.c....