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Isn't facial recognition wide spread in the US yet?

In the UK we're already using it everywhere. Most stores and checkout systems have it. It's used in CCTV across the country. It's used by police to identify protestors. Schools in my area even install spyware on kids phones to monitor them and their families.

I can't imagine anyone would mind having being identified by a vending machine here lol... What's the risk?



This isn't a noisy adult snitching to whoever walks by what you bought.

This is a info collector which potentially disseminates information across the world, to sell better ads.

Meanwhile, categories of you are being made. Do you buy a soda every friday at 05:00? "Party Animal".

Or not. Who knows. Maybe they just spend the extra dollars on the software and camera because they really do want to lose money on it.


I knew the UK was going sharply downhill with the surveillance state nonsense, but that far already?

Wow - I have even more respect for the people who risk their lives to damage and tear down government surveillance cameras for the common good.


People here don't care.

When I read the story that schools in my area had been installing spyware on students phones I assumed it was some kind of isolated thing. But my GF works in schools so I asked her if she knew of this app and she was like, "oh yeah, all the kids have it".

I found this utterly insane but she seemed to think it was a good thing if it could be used to protect kids. And I guess I get the argument, but you could say the same thing about the government installing CCTV in everyone's homes... You need to draw lines, especially when there's an expectation of privacy.

This is my concern with facial recognition in shops too. If I go into a shop I expect people to see my face, so a simple CCTV system seems fine. I even expect people who know me might recognise who I am, so again, if a human being I've interacted with before identifies me on the CCTV system I'm okay with this. What I don't think people expect is to be identified by some automated national biometric system which checks to see if you've ever stolen anything before so it can alert security, while also trying to understand your emotions and individual purchasing habits.

I used to work for a large highstreet retail org and was literally pitched on a system which could identify our customers and tell us how they feel about their shopping experience and their shopping habits.

But like I say, no one cares. I've spoken about this with people so often and they act like I'm some kind of privacy lunatic. That said, people here get very animated if someone can access data they've personally shared to Facebook and made publicly available.


Some people choose to blindly trust the government and decide whatever it does is for the best and has no downsides. To quote someone I asked (unsuccessfully) for a referendum signature against a surveillance law, "If I can't trust the government anymore, then who can I trust?"


The risk is the countless little bits of info being gathered by all this tech falling into the hands of the next genocidal despot. I wonder which metric they'll base their cleansing around?


Is don’t understand how the EU got GDPR passed years ago but the UK has this




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