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Apple, stop trolling me (mihir.xxx)
32 points by citruspi on Jan 31, 2013 | hide | past | favorite | 52 comments


Off topic of the post itself:

I was at home, so I took a chance on the .xxx link, but seriously, this is worse than registering your trendily-named startup's domain in Libya. I'm all for devaluing ICANN's TLD money grab, but for the time being, this sort of URL is going to set off alarm bells.


I was going to get mihir.io, but it was bought already, so I took a chance....

Best part? The guy who bought mihir.io has been parking it for the past four months.


Huh, I thought you had to have a porn site to use a .xxx domain. (Like, I registered saurik.xxx so no one else could take it, but at the time I had to register as "non-porn", and so it is just permanently parked... I guess I never checked to see if I could override that.)


I know that feeling - the person who took <myname>.com sat on it for 2 years...


Some of us just use our name for email. (Though I have no A/AAAA records).


Yes, some corporate proxies and mobile phone networks will block .xxx by default.


Which is the point of the TLD. It could work out better for everyone if people would adhere to this idea.


What's the benefit for a porn site to stick to .xxx, where they can be easily filtered?


Because porn sites have little benefit by being seen by users subject to such filters, and they'll be less targeted if they keep to an area that is simple to filter out. The whole concept of the evil pornographer trying to corrupt your children is deeply weakened by a recognition that some people want to filter out porn, that that's OK, and that the industry should make reasonable accommodations for that.

Those with disposable income to spend either on porn directly or at the porn sites' sponsors are perfectly capable of browsing on their home connection where no restrictions exist. The only people who are filtered are a) children, who don't have any money to spend on things like that, and ostensibly are not legally allowed to consume/purchase "adult" material anyway or b) people who are at work. Neither of these types of people are worthwhile to the porn industry.

I think it's even positive for citizens with national web filtering, because it will take pressure off moderation of other TLD, and their typical national web filter circumvention method will allow access to .xxx just like it allows access to all the other banned stuff.

It also allows people who want to filter for porn to find it easily. Think imgur.xxx for NSFW and imgur.com for not-NSFW. imgur guy says he is obligated to keep "no pornography" in his TOS even though it's obviously not enforced because otherwise he can't get any advertisers. A segregation like this can allow him to actually follow these terms and take adult-specific advertisers on the site in the xxx namespace.

The only argument against the segregation into a custom namespace is that porn sites shouldn't make filtration easy, but I don't really see any benefit to that position for anyone.


I beg to differ. It would be "better for everyone" if this attempt at censoring and balkanizing the internet would be undermined in any way possible.


Using a .xxx domain? Now that's trolling.


Not a bad idea. But a blog post won't solve anything. Go file a bug with Apple at http://bugreport.apple.com where some engineer can actually see it.


Submitted. Thanks!


For those that don't know bugs entered on BugReporter will feed directly into the internal Radar bug tracking system. And I highly recommend following the format and most importantly providing clear, step by step instructions on how to reproduce the bug.


Where they site for days/months/years and it's impossible to see how many other people have the issue, or whether anyone is going to do something about it.


Does the bug need to be visible for you in order for it to be fixed?


It needs to be visible so that we can see whether other people have the same issue.

Different people will word issues differently, leading to multiple tickets for the same issue.

The way crbug works is much better, you can see everyone else's issues (minus security ones I suspect) and track their status


Actually, filing duplicates is a good thing. They will get tracked and appropriately linked together. Not only will the number of duplicates act as a proxy for "votes" for an issue, but the varying descriptions in the duplicates may be useful for engineering to properly diagnose the issue.


> But, why support iOS 6 on the iPhone 3GS and not on the iPod Touch 3G? The iPod Touch came out after the iPhone - its more recent.

But the iPod Touch 3G was discontinued in September 2010, whereas the iPhone 3GS, despite being released slightly earlier, was not discontinued until September 2012.


And support would have very little to do with release dates, but more likely hardware. And the iPhones are the top tier devices, and have better hardware in them than the iPods released around the same time.


Probably I'm going to get bashed for pointing out the obvious, but: Open Source Advocate and Apple fanboy? At the same time? How's that even remotely possible?


I don't know why I'm bothering to respond to such an idiotic statement but:

1) Apple is a huge contributor to open source (WebKit, LLVM, OpenCL, GCD, LaunchD, ZeroConf, CUPS just to name a few).

2) Given how much of a sad joke "Linux on a Laptop" still is to this day Apple is the only provider of UNIX laptops and huge popular amongst developers including Linus himself.


I'm actually typing these from my MBA. However, the article only talks about iOS which kinda is the opposite of OSS. News flash: it is a totally closed ecosystem. Without jailbreak, you're pretty much at the mercy of the mighty grey apple. Besides, outside of Apple, please point something that actually uses GCD, launchd, and their actual implementation of ZeroConf.


To point out the most obvious flaw in your rude and ill informed comment, Linus doesn't use OS X on his MBA, he uses "a sad joke" as you put it. So do a lot of developers.


He meant something like "linux-compatible laptops", no word about OSX.


Then he would still be completely wrong. Thinkpads are as good as Macs, and run Linux just fine.


Wild guess is that they're trolling you so that you'll update your apparently obsolete device (by their standards) and give them more money...


#777 is really hard to read on that background.


Well, he did say he was an Apple fanboy. I'm sure these retina displays are nice and all, but even with a retina, I bet my eyes are too poor to read that contrast!


Changed it to #222. Is that better? Or should it be darker?


Yeah, the first thing I did was switch off #777 on this website.

Whoever designed it, please see high contrast looks good: http://contrastrebellion.com/


In a perfect world - someone working for apple, somewhere would notice your comments and think "Hey, this guy is so right. I'm fixing this!"

You could be some famous legacy device soldier. Fighting the good fight! Battle on my friend.


That'd be nice, haha.

All of my mobile devices are at least outdated by two to three years.

With my Androids, I can just use CyanogenMod, but there's no custom rom for iOS devices. :(


> With my Androids, I can just use CyanogenMod

You make it sound like with Android there is this guaranteed upgrade path to a newer OS which simply not true. And even when you can upgrade it is common for there to be serious bugs or functionality missing.


Please, please, please..! Change the font color!


I agree with this post.

Since iOS6 its been a major change over the whole iOS ecosystem. Most people don't realise this but iOS6 has changed a lot of things for Apple devices in general.

Few things I feel Apple should implement,

- Fix the issue OP mentioned. If a app requires iOS6 only make it visible to iOS6 compatible devices. And btw if iPhone 3GS can get iOS6, so should iPod Touch 3G.

- App updates should be pushed only to devices which can support the update. Like the ones which require iOS6 should not annoy a user still/stuck on iOS5.


This could be solved by the developer setting the Deployment target to 4.3, or less than 6.0. It is not likely they are using 6.0 specific code in their apps, though possible.


Off topic: You like Asterisks and Oblix? That's so cool. I haven't met another person who even knew who they were!!! Major props!


I grew up reading comics like Asterix and Obelix and Tintin. <3

I've met a few people who knew who Tintin was (especially after that movie :/ ), but never someone who read Asterix and Obelix.


Hell yeah! Same-- haha.


If Microsoft did half the shit Apple is pulling they'd have been out of business for 10 years. Funny how that works.


What? Microsoft has done 100x worse than listing incompatible software.


Apple has done 100x worse than listing incompatible software as well. I was talking more generally.


I disagree with the premise of the post. In a year or two, most apps will only support iOS 6. How bad would it be to search for an app you expect, like Facebook or Yelp, only to not find it, not having any indication of error? At least this way, people realize that they have to buy a new iProduct to use an app. Having an empty app store and not knowing why is way worse than being teased by apps you can't get.


I don't think you disagree with the premise of the post (which is incorrect supported OS on app listings)

You disagree with one of the proposed solutions - which is to remove ios6-only apps from the store, as seen from these devices.

Perhaps still listing the app, fixing the supported devices list, and removing the install button (or updating the error message) would suffice.


Don't think you understand the definition of trolling. This isn't trolling. It's either a marketing ploy or an oversight, but neither is designed to make you angry and get you to post disparaging things on your blog or elsewhere, which is what trolling is. I realize that's what it's done in your case, but that was not the intent.


I'd say the modern usage of troll is more like "to frustrate in a clever or unexpected manner" (at least on sites like reddit and its [very large!] irl readership).


Let the poor man speak colloquially. The scope of that word has expanded beyond its original, narrow use. We know what he's trying to say.


I honestly did not understand immediately what the article was about. I misinterpreted both the title and the content itself until I was half way through it.

I agree with OP: the term "trolling" is generally understood very differently from how it is used in the article.


I wasn't trying to be pedantic. I honestly think he misused the word and may not understand what it means.


I assure you he did not – colleagues and I have been using troll in precisely that way for at least two years. Language is ever flexible. Trolled can mean someone getting you irritated, whether they meant it or not.


But you can see where this ends, can't you, troll?




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